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Old April 18th, 2008, 17:41
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I've searched the manual (honest to god) and I cannot, for the life of me, figure this one out.

I create a new, empty rack.

Next I add a ReDrum and make a pattern.

Then a Thor, choose a patch, add a Matrix Sequencer and mouse-selection a few notes, then Edit > Copy Pattern to Track.

But here's the problem...

When I head over to the Sequencer and hit play, even though I've only sent the Matrix data to the track, I can still hear both the ReDrum as well as the Thor/Matrix. I only want to hear what I've sent to the track.

What am I doing wrong??

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Old April 18th, 2008, 20:45
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There's a button on the Redrum that says something like "Enable Pattern Selection". If you turn that off it should fix your problem.
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Old April 18th, 2008, 21:00
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There's a button on the Redrum that says something like "Enable Pattern Selection". If you turn that off it should fix your problem.
That did the trick for the drums but I was kind of generalizing in the example I gave. How do I turn off a Thor+Matrix? Gah.

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Old April 18th, 2008, 23:26
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what do you mean? I guess you can automate it so that the volume is at 0 for when you want it to shut up, or make a blank pattern and use that?
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what do you mean? I guess you can automate it so that the volume is at 0 for when you want it to shut up, or make a blank pattern and use that?
My bad, I should have explained it better. Imagine this...

1) Create Thor, select patch. Create Matrix which wires to the Thor and automatically has all sixteen notes already being triggered. Click Edit > Copy Pattern to Track.

2) Create Thor, select patch different from #1. Create Matrix which wires to the Thor and automatically has all sixteen notes already being triggered. DO NOT Edit > Copy Pattern to Track.

3) Hit Play.

Why do both Thor+Matrix units play? I only sent one to track, when I hit play, I expect only the Thor+Matrix from #1 to play.

Make more sense?

I think you're saying I should add an automation or mute it but that seems like an unnecessary step and kind of an impediment to my flow for putting together a song (perhaps my method is wrong, I'm no pro). And if sending that Thor+Matrix to the track doesn't do what I'm trying to get it to do, what's the point of sending it to track at all?

I don't mean at ALL to sound argumentative, I'm just confused and I appreciate any advice anyone can offer.

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I think I get you now... sorry if I dont (lol) but the problem, IMO, is that both units are playing at the same time, this is because a step sequencer device, i.e. the matrix and redrum, will still play even if not copied to track. The only way to get around this that I know of is to automate the volume or create a blank pattern, I never looked into it that much because those two options worked and that was fine by me.
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I think I get you now... sorry if I dont (lol) but the problem, IMO, is that both units are playing at the same time, this is because a step sequencer device, i.e. the matrix and redrum, will still play even if not copied to track. The only way to get around this that I know of is to automate the volume or create a blank pattern, I never looked into it that much because those two options worked and that was fine by me.
No, your answer was perfect. It told me I can't do it the way I was doing it which is certainly helpful.

Unfortunately, I'm still having a similar problem.

I created a Thor and then a Matrix. Picked a patch for Thor and created a simple pattern on Pattern A1. Then I created a different pattern on A2.

In the Sequencer, I put the L (left) bracket at 1 and the R (right) bracket at 2 (are these "measures?").

Edit > Copy Pattern to Track.

Back to the Sequencer, I put the L bracket at 2 and the R bracket at 3.

Edit > Copy Pattern to Track.

Now my screen looks like this.

Then I moved my "start" pointer to the beginning, hit play.

Unfortunately, because the Matrix itself is on A1, when it plays the section that should be only A2, I get both A1 and A2.

So I went back and tried to simply record the actions.

Moved the pointer to the beginning, checked off "pre," hit record. For the first four steps it was pattern A1 and for the second four steps, pattern A2, then hit space to stop.

Move the pointer back to the beginning and hit play. Still, the playback is whatever the Matrix is on at the moment.

I feel like a meathead because I work with computers all day (and have since like 1978). I'm baffled. I've been through the manual and I've had no luck finding the error of my method.

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There are two ways to work:

First one: Work with "copy pattern to track", like you descriped above. When you do this, you have to turn the matrix off or completely remove it (when your notes are in the sequencer track, you probably donīt need it anymore. If you donīt, it will always run itīs pattern, when you hit play.

Second one: You DONT use "copy pattern to track". Set up all your wanted patterns in the matrix and then AUTOMATE the pattern selection. This will tell the matrix at which time it has to play which pattern. (read the manual to get familar with automation)
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There are two ways to work:

First one: Work with "copy pattern to track", like you descriped above. When you do this, you have to turn the matrix off or completely remove it (when your notes are in the sequencer track, you probably donīt need it anymore. If you donīt, it will always run itīs pattern, when you hit play.

Second one: You DONT use "copy pattern to track". Set up all your wanted patterns in the matrix and then AUTOMATE the pattern selection. This will tell the matrix at which time it has to play which pattern. (read the manual to get familar with automation)
OK, thanks a ton iGoA. I'll give that a shot when I get home.

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