let me know what you think. peace


Name of the idea is Fighting Hard!!!

Fighting Hard

didn't do this link right either... try it now. should be fine

http://www.zshare.net/audio/8947042fa71ab6/

no comments....at all???? how odd!!! Was it that bad?

Sorry Apex but I guess that we haven't had time to comment yet, I haven't actually heard it yet but I will ive you my opinion as soon as I can.

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Well... here's my opinion:

The track has a pretty cool beat, and although it is pretty cool at first, you have to admit that it is the same loop for about 3 and a half minutes, which is pretty boring.

The song was also pretty much the same idea as your last one, a lot of artists tend to do that (i.e. repeat the same idea in more than one song, even if it isn't a remix), I know I have.

If I sound too harsh, I'm sorry. Your tracks aren't bad, and I'm not perfect myself, but... I mean... this is what a forum is for - to get feedback.

I would reccomend introducing some new breaks, maybe screw it up at one point with a turntable, but definitely introduce some verses, keep what you've already made as a chorus, so to speak.

If you listen to any trance song, you will notice that they are all the same. I've spent a lot of time dissecting trance music to try to get similar energy, and it has really payed off.

The aim of trance is pretty much to make as much use as a loop you've discovered (a lot of the time by accident) and to try to make it mind blowing. This can be applied to a lot of styles of music too.

Also, the reason why there were no replies to your message was probably because there are so many identical threads, you kind of forget about it

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no you don't sound harsh at all. just honest.
yeah it is the same loop for about 3 and a half minutes...well not really the same, there is a verse and a chorus section of the music. what do you mean by the same idea as the last one? (little confused about that statement)
next thing is this (you think this is trance music? LOL...not trance at all man! most loop based music (HIP HOP) does basically use a loop...verse loop and a hook loop. know what I mean?
I don't use turntables at all and breaks don't really fit my style too much. (although, I do have tracks with some breaks in them)

When you say introduce some verses...you mean lyrically or as far as the pattern in the song is concerned?

Please explain the next statement. I think I get what you are saying, but the first part of the first sentence kinda threw me off a little.

"The aim of trance is pretty much to make as much use as a loop you've discovered (a lot of the time by accident) and to try to make it mind blowing. This can be applied to a lot of styles of music too."

yeah I understand about how it got forgotten about. I probably won't be posting too much more stuff (musically on here though.) kinda don't make sense though when the thread gets hits though. I mean you don't forget if you click on it, listen then post...(na mean) But all in all, it's all good. I do appreciate the comments and will use it to make even more heat.

"IT'S SO HARD FIGHTING HARD"

PEACE.

Yo man, nice sampling!!! but bringing down the level so drastically at the end of the sample just does'nt sound right. Also, the drums are a bit 'soft' and not bangin enough... well thats just my personal opinion but overall, great work. Are you gonna add vocals in there? If you do it would sound great!!!

Keep up the good work !!!

Nice work man, nice chops (they are chops right? lol) anyway I would just beefen up that snare a little, make it knock. Also that second kick makes the mix sound a little bit muddy, it has a little to much "boom" in it. I say just stick to tight punchy kicks on this track. Also this may just be a rough mix but try adding an intro with another part of the sample of something.

And by the way apex i know what you mean with sampling when it comes to hiphop. Straight CLASSIC records were made from even pure loops and straight simple drums in hiphop. hey sometimes I like more variation but it sounds like heat it sounds like heat lol.

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Sorry, I should have been more clear. I know that this isn't Trance music, I was just comparing the two styles as trance is what I really focus on. So when I was talking about trance, I was really trying to apply what I know (whcih is mainly about trance) to this different style, which I guess probably isn't the best idea, but it's what I'm best at, if you get my drift.

As for the verses, I meant the actuall pattern of the song and how it transitions from piece to piece, which can be whatever way you want, there aren't any rules or anything, it's just how a lot of songs are laid out.

As for the loop thing I was talking about, that's just how I find a lot of my songs and other people's songs are created - fudging about on your keyboard and coming across a cool loop which you then build on and create some variations.

As for the "same idea as the last one", I mean that it was a vocal sort of looped and was similar in the rhythmic sense to your last track.

I'm just pointing out all the negatives for you, there are a lot of good things about the track, the drums are pretty cool, with some good mastering, and I like the way it's a bit of a rare drum loop. It really does have a lot of potential.

I put a song on Youtube which i literally made in about an hour to demonstrate what I meant by the pattern of a song, the transition of verse to chorus or whatever.

You can find it here. It's not the best but gets the point across.

Don't stop posting tracks though, it's a great way to learn and teach.

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Well, what a pleasant surprise. I was starting to think the forum was dead...LOL...j/k