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Old March 11th, 2008, 04:05
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im having a problem with getting my loops to fit perfectly in the song. i asked around and most people told me to get ableton. i got it from a friend and i have no idea how to use it and neither does he. i dont have a manual so can sum1 give me an idea of wut i need to do or tell me somewhere i can go to find out. thanks in advance!
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Old March 11th, 2008, 09:27
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Old March 11th, 2008, 11:39
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Hi,
I use Ableton and Reason all the time and they are great together.
If you are completely new to Ableton it is best to spend some time and go through the tutorials that are supplied with Ableton (go to the help menu and then the free tutorials).
To start timestretching you have to use 'warp' markers, this can be a pain to get used to, but once you get used to it you can warp a track very quickly.
I will help you as much as i can, but go through the tutorials first as you need to have an idea of how ableton works ie. the session view, the arrangement view, launching clips and scenes etc.....
There is a lot of information on the web. If you google warp markers, you may find some stuff. Also there is a good forum at www.abletonlivedj.com and there is lots of info about warping tracks etc..
Hope this will get you started, but stick at it because Ableton is really really good.
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Old March 11th, 2008, 20:59
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Hi,
I use Ableton and Reason all the time and they are great together.
If you are completely new to Ableton it is best to spend some time and go through the tutorials that are supplied with Ableton (go to the help menu and then the free tutorials).
To start timestretching you have to use 'warp' markers, this can be a pain to get used to, but once you get used to it you can warp a track very quickly.
I will help you as much as i can, but go through the tutorials first as you need to have an idea of how ableton works ie. the session view, the arrangement view, launching clips and scenes etc.....
There is a lot of information on the web. If you google warp markers, you may find some stuff. Also there is a good forum at www.abletonlivedj.com and there is lots of info about warping tracks etc..
Hope this will get you started, but stick at it because Ableton is really really good.
Matt.
Just want to point out that you dont have to use the warp markers to timestretch, you can still stretch the audio without them.
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Old March 12th, 2008, 08:26
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Just want to point out that you dont have to use the warp markers to timestretch, you can still stretch the audio without them.
Can you explain what you mean, as far as i understand the warp markers are needed to lock the audio to the beat so it can be tempo synced.
What are the other methods of timestretching without using warp markers?
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Old March 12th, 2008, 09:49
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Hmm well does the start and end points of the sample count as warp markers? Because I never add warp markers in the middle of audio samples but thats just me. So If does count I guess technically youre right. but when you brought up warp markers I thought of placing them between the audio sample.
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Old March 12th, 2008, 11:50
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If warping is enabled, there is always a warp marker at the start. You cannot have warping enabled without at least this one warp marker. If you know the original bpm of the clip, you can work with this one and set the original speed at this marker. If you don´t know the original speed, it is easier to work with more warp markers, because you can postition them visually and don´t have to try out thousands of numbers.
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Old March 12th, 2008, 11:59
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I guess a lot of it is down to how you use your samples or tracks.
I remix lots of old 7inch funk records, so i import the complete track and then go through the track and warp it, so i can pick out individual loops for use in a track.
Because of the tempo changes due to the music being performed by real musicians and the fact that i have recorded it in from vinyl, i usually end up with over 70 warp markers because i place one every bar or 2 bars.
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SG I didn't see anything in that video showing you how to time stretch
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Old March 15th, 2008, 04:40
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He is warping and using time stretching algorithms on the sample in that video, actually though now that I look at it that's not a good video to link to at all. It doesn't explain anything lol.
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