I am having a very hard time getting the temps and pitches of my samples to match the tempo and pitches of my reason tracks.

I watched a Youtube tutorial on tempo changing and the guy said that you have to apply slices to a file in order to get recycle to change the tempo...well my tempo never really seem to change...(it may play through the loop faster, but still doesn't seem to change the tempo of the track)...(i hope that made sense)

It is frustrating the crap out of me. I get samples into reason, but can't use them cause either the pitch or the tempo..or both is off.

can someone please help me.???

direct me to somewhere to learn about this stuff in reason and recycle of you can tell me.....!!! Just please help me understand.

thanks

Yeah see a common misconception of recycle is that it allows you to time stretch/pitch shift which isn't really true it just gaps the time between each slice. I really wish they would just make recycle built into reason and allow reason to timestretch it would make alot of things easier. but anyway....

To look up exactly what timestretching and pitchshifting is (if you dont' know arleady) look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_t...h_modification

Many DAWS (digital audio workstations) can timestretch and pitchshift

Programs like:
1.Protools
2.Cubase
3.Sonar
4.Ableton live

Personally one of the best DAW with excellent timestretch is Reaper.
Http://www.reaper.fm
Ableton live is also great but a bit costy, the best thing about reaper is that it has a never ending full featured evaluation period, it doesnt require much space, and is light on system resources.

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Hi,
What software are you using apart from Reason?
Do you have Recycle?
I use ableton Live, Reason and Recycle.
I mainly use Ableton Live for time stretching audio. It is really quick once you get the hang of it.
In the past i would have used Recycle, but i seem to get better results through Ableton.
Recycle is great and very quick for extracting individual hits from a loop.
Matt.

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I use:

AUDACITY
REASON
RECYCLE
LOGIC PRO 8 SUITE

thanks for the input. I do understand timestretch and pitch shift for the most part...I just thought recycle would do it. The guy on the you tube vdieo was able to get the tempo to change....(I will post the link later on today...when I get to work)

Please continue to give input. I really need to figure this out. By the way I am using Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) So make sure that the software is compatible with that when you suggest.

From the wiki link posted above:
"Time stretching is the process of changing the speed or duration of an audio signal without affecting its pitch."

Pitch scaling or Pitchshifting can be used to transpose an audio sample while holding speed or duration constant.

From Harmonycentral.com :
The process works by cutting a digital audio file into multiple slices, usually with the cut points at steep attack transients. These slices are triggered by MIDI; as the tempo of the host DAW or sequencer slows down, the slices are triggered further apart, thus slowing down the phrase. Faster tempos trigger the slices closer together. (Pitch transposition is a separate process that, while not as effective as time-stretching, is satisfactory for relatively small transposition ranges.)

"The REX time-stretching process is optimized for sounds like drums, percussion, and other instruments with sharp, defined transients."


By the way ableton is available for the MAC OS and I believe reaper has a beta version out for the MAC OS.

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here is the youtube link where the guy shows you how to change tempo using recycle...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKFS98EV7E

So is albeton better than reaper? and are there any programs out there that do this as their main function. at the moment (I am sure you will change my mind though) I am not too excited about running another DAW. especially just to use it for time stretch...but if you all say it works well, then I will try it. which of the two should I go after though...

Okay let me try to explain this.

Recycle allows you to slice your audio and and change the tempo of how fast the slices are played. So youre not really timestretching, youre basically just laying down the slices and changing the speed of how fast the gaps of time are in between the slices. That's why it's mainly use for drum loops, or simple instrumentation loops. So if you want to achieve what was in the video just slice up your audio loop and drag the tempo up or down and that's it but....

if you want to do true timestretch you're gonna have to use a different program. See what I'm saying? I'm not saying that you shouldn't use recycle I'm just saying it can't truly timestretch.

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so...out of the suggested programs that we are talking about in this thread which do you feel I should go after to achieve what I am trying to do?