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Old May 25th, 2007, 23:16
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Question I need hardcore tips?

does ne kno how to get drums bangin?if ne 1 can send me a link to a tutorial or sumin wud be really grateful!
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Old May 29th, 2007, 15:44
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A lot of Hardcore loops come with Reason (the Factory Soundbank) under "Dr.Rex Drum Loops>Hardcore" but if you want to create something original you can always use the redrum drum computer, and load up a Hardcore kit. Just don't over do it, hardcore kits should be kept to a minimum, it can be easily overdone.
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Old May 29th, 2007, 17:03
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use pans and pots. compress and eq. and i'm not even joking
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Old May 29th, 2007, 18:35
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never thought of that...

do you personally add distortion/envelope/anything else after that?
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Old May 29th, 2007, 20:09
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distortion, yes. just a little bit on the drums to give them a more lo-fi, warm feeling
envelope... you mean as in playing with the volume envelope controls? if so, sure, yeah. if i need to modify the drums sounds

reverb is what i add, still just a bit, and delay almost always on the hi hat line for some extra movement.

and depending on what sound i'm going for i will completely squash the drums with a hard limiter for my weird electronica or use almost no compression at all for my jazzier tunes.

eq is what i use heavily on *everything* for instance, your hi-hats will never need frequencies below, ehmm, maybe 400 hz, so i will cut all those frequencies.
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Old May 29th, 2007, 21:33
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I find that in Scream 4, pushed the "mid" slider to full, sometimes along with "lo" gives it the perfect effect, and if it doesn't cometimes reverb can make it sound more glitchy. Matrix compresser is good most of the time as well.

Do you think scale works well with Hardcore drums? Personally I think It's a wonder for those catchy loops.

btw I love your music, that's the type of stuff I used to make on my analogs. You should try making stuff like Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works Volume II and music of your genre is often inspired by meditation/ lucid dreaming, that's where I've gotten most of my ideas from. Except from that crappy song I whipped up in about 30 mins, the one I linked to a while back.

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As dumi said compression and EQ are key to getting a drum looping "bangin". Each hit has to be individually assesed and EQ to bring out the tones you do want and get rid of bits you don't (freq that take up head room but add nothing desired). This will give you more head room and with a correcttly set compressor will make the loop allot louder. Not sure what type of music you write exacttly but for glitch I tend to use the digital setting on the scream unit and mess around with the body section to bring out my low tones.

Revb on drums in my opinion is essential especially when using the factory sound bank samples. I'll often set up a couple of verb units on the sends on my drum mixer, one that complements the high freq in the loop and one that complements the lows. Or one with a short tail and one with a longer tail to make them sound "real". Each hit has it's own track on the mixer and I add the verb to taste. Some hits might get a load of one some might get a mixture of the two.

Aphex twin uses a good dollop of verb on his drums, especially in his early stuff, he's a bloody genius though, i've given up trying to replicate his insane loops.

DDL's on the hats keeps things moving and flangers/chorus can make them more interesting across the course of an entire track, if I use one I tend to layer the drums and use a flanger on only one set.

If you want to post a loop and express your problems with it i'm sure people will have a look at it for you.
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