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Old April 21st, 2010, 18:50
Floor van Riet Floor van Riet is offline
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Question Why does my NN-19 not remender "solo sample"?

Hello everyone,

I have a question about the NN-19 Digitale sampler. I'v loaded several .wav-files using the 'Browse sample' option. And then I have selected 'Solo sample' to use the samples.

But everytime when I close the track and reopen it (after saving it ;-), Reason doesn't remember that I've selected 'Solo sample' (so everytime I have to select this option on 10-20 NN-19s in my rack ;-/).

Do I forget something? Please help!

Thanks in advance

Floor
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Old July 9th, 2011, 22:59
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yes, same thing with me... actually I registered myself here to find this answer...

I have like 10 NN19s with differen samples and everytime I open the project I have to pick "solo sample" on every NN19! It's so annoying.

I usung 5.0 now, previously I had no such problem on 4.0.


p.s. hello everyone, it's my first post here
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Old July 10th, 2011, 05:01
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You guys are using the NN19 in a weird way. The whole point of the NN19 is to split the keyboard into multiple zones, so that each plays a different sample (using Split Key Zone, LO KEY and HI KEY).

Solo Sample temporarily maps a single sample to the entire keyboard. It's just a tool to help you set up your zones, and isn't saved with your project.

If you really need to map a single sample to the entire keyboard, you'll have to use a separate NN19 for each sample. If the pitch of the samples doesn't matter (e.g. drums, stabs, FX), you're better off loading them into a ReDrum. It can load and play back 10 different samples.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 19:09
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Thanks,

I think I get what you mean, but I used to use NN19 already there was no such problem in 4. There are some options not available in ReDrum like filter or sample start, which I like using.

Anyways, thank for explanation.
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Old July 13th, 2011, 14:29
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I'm using Reason 4 and it doesn't remember load solo sample on either the NN19 or the NNXT. Just like nebula says, its not really the "proper" way to use the samples, but I have to admit that I do it just like you do from time to time...

Its easy to force Reason to remember to press the solo sample button on the sampler: just use automation...
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Old July 13th, 2011, 14:39
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lol, that's a clever solution. I never noticed Solo Sample can be automated!

It's strange... they let you automate Solo Sample, but not the Sample selector knob. That makes no sense.
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Old July 13th, 2011, 14:45
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When I think of it, I THINK I placed the NN19 inside a Combinator, programmed Button 1 on it to "load solo sample" (value 0 or 1) and then I automated the Combinator button...

Haven't tried this method for the sample selector knob, but since there are free knobs on the Combinator maybe it would work...
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Old July 30th, 2011, 07:14
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GOT IT! GOT IT!

it's quite simple when you first load an NN19 into your rack, first thing you do is right-click on it and from menu that appears select "Initialize patch" and that's it! and do it for every device you put into your rack, cause it clears all the settings... now after opening your project file all sound ok!
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Old August 18th, 2011, 08:39
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GOT IT! GOT IT!

it's quite simple when you first load an NN19 into your rack, first thing you do is right-click on it and from menu that appears select "Initialize patch" and that's it! and do it for every device you put into your rack, cause it clears all the settings... now after opening your project file all sound ok!
Hey All,

First post here though I'm not that new to Reason.... I initially came here to find some solution to the "NN19 not remembering solo sample" issue... I tried the 'initialize patch' thingy but it didn't work, the NN19 devices came up as before, that is, with the 'solo sample' off. Neither was I very successful with adding a Combinator to each NN19....so I started playing around with automation and soon found the following simple fix which works like a dream:

1. turn on the 'solo sample' red light;
2. right click on the light;
3. click 'Edit Automation';
4. green marker will appear around the red light;
5. a "Solo sample on" automation line will appear in the sequencer;
6. save it, close the song, reopen it and BINGO - each and every NN19 device has the solo sample red light on!

(I have Reason 5 and work on a MacBook Pro 13" under OS X 10.7 Lion)

I use a great number of NN19s in every song as I work with a lot of looped/tweaked audio samples so finding a fix to this issue was essential. I also use Reason in live acts and just last night I have finished the first proper live set in one song / file which plays for 50 mins. and has around 20 NN19s.
So now I'm pretty happy that I won't have to do the 'scroll and click' protocol every time I open my sets and songs.
I also use long audio files in my sets (they are the main tracks of the individual songs) and my last problem with NN19 is that it only plays the sample from the start. That is, if you pause or stop in the middle of a file it won't play from that point. This means that when I, say, want to add outros or sort of interim files in between two songs (in the live set), I will have to listen thru the whole song over and over so that I know where that outro or whatever best fits. This is very time-consuming and tiring so I want to fix this issue as well. I'm guessing Record handles audio files in this sense much better but I don't have it yet. Any of you guys have any suggestions or experience with Record? Any light thrown on this will be much appreciated.

Cheers,

Gabor
Budapest / Hungary
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Old August 19th, 2011, 01:00
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That's a common problem with reason.

The sample has to be triggered in the device from the start in order for it to play, so as you say, you have to wait until it gets to the point you need to check to see if it's working.

Record does not suffer from this problem, as the sample is on a track that is 'constantly updated' (doesn't need to be triggered to play), similar to Ableton or Cubase.

A possible workaround is if you can get luck with automating the sample start. If you go to the point in your song where you need to check, and trigger your sample to play from the beginning AT THAT POINT, then go to the sample start perameter, and trigger the automation at exactly the right point, it would essentially "skip" the front of your sample and play from where you want it to.

This is NOT an ideal way of doing it, as the longer the sample, the less presise the sample start perameter is. It's just a POSSIBLE workaround, untill you get record.

By this i mean that a very short sample, the time inbetween 0 sample start and 1 sample start would be 1ms, but in a 5 minute sample, the difference would be over 1 second, with no way of fine tuning.

Record is the way to go, but I would wait until Reason 6 is out, as Record is being discontinued and fully implemented into R6 as a single program.
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