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Old December 21st, 2008, 02:51
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I don't really like any of the reason pianos, their too soft, and I cant get the rewire to work on any program so I thought I should make my piano a reason refill then i can record in my piano sound.

I came across this site, I'm not sure if this is what I'm trying to do. but I mainly want to open the refill in the nnxt and its my pianos sounds and such.

goto google and search for "how to Reason Combinator Patch File", its the 7th link down, the soundonsound site.

is this the what I need to do first? make a .cmb file of my piano then make it a refill with the refill packer, correct? is that site correct? is it showing how to do what i am trying to do? :P

just how do i go about doing what i wanna do eh? any tuts or?

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Old December 21st, 2008, 11:34
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Anyone, could someone please help? I know I need to have 'samples' to put in the refill, but are the samples .cmb files or?

I'm lost.. :/
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Old December 21st, 2008, 14:37
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the samples would be .wav or .aif files, you would need to include these with the refill, although I'm not exactly sure what to do, i would imagine you would open a sample with the NNXT and then map the samples to whatever way you want, then save the NNXT patch to the same folder, but I'm not sure. Anyone else?
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Old December 21st, 2008, 18:45
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This article may help:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep0...ntechnique.htm

EDIT: I read your first post and why cant you get rewire to work?

Also when you say you dont like reason's pianos are you talking about the ones that come in the default sound bank? There are some other ones that are in the Reason Piano Refill that I think are excellent.
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Old December 21st, 2008, 22:17
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yea thats the site i was talking about..

and i tried the reason pianos refill, their too soft, i have the yamaha ypg 625 and i love the sound from it..
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First off, I'm not a piano player, but the piano players who record in my commercial studio love the Reason pianos refills. Mostly I just use the one mic (close up) piano. I always get compliments on how good they sound. And it's not just beginners. The last two guys have been playing for many years. I'm not saying that Reson is the very best out there 'cause I haven't heard them all, but they are really good samples fwiw.

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Old December 22nd, 2008, 19:47
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Dude I have a Electromechanical refill that has a lot of piano sounds in it, and as a piano player I don't understand what u mean by "soft" I've played on the first gen MOOG, Fender rhodes, the DX7, and many others, reasons has plenty of great piano sounds, if I just wanna straight piano sound I use the grand piano and stick the rx7000 on it. so explain how hard ya want the sound and we maybe we'll be able to help you adjust the parameters, if any one know's how i can send him this refill with out downloading another program let me know...Quack.
I have the Yamaha YPG 625 like I said and I love the sound of it, and I've tried the Reason Pianos and the pianos in there are just too soft sounding. I don't know how to explain it but I need something that just sounds like main or is mine, watch this video and let me know, but I just cant get the rewire to work, I guess I don't know 100% how to mess with rewire, I wish I could just record MY keyboard in reason and not have to have a refill loaded in the NNXT. Here's the video. Copy and paste since it won't let me post links yet. And there's more videos of my keyboard, click around and let me know.

youtube.com/watch?v=lYdpXH3KQME&feature=related
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I get what you mean. Does your keyboard have an audio-out port? You could connect that to your computer and record it with a daw like reaper, or just ableton and import it into reason.

You could just play it and record it directly into a sample and then load that into the NNXT but you wouldn't get it quantized or anything, and you wouldn't be able to edit it as well as if you recorded each note, at different velocities, although the second way is a lot more tedious.

The best way to do it would be if the keyboard has it's own quantization feature, record the song into the keyboard's memory and then play it though the audio out, that's what I did with a similar keyboard before.
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Old December 24th, 2008, 14:23
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well what i wanted to do is record is key and throw them into folders then make the refill or just my piano..but im not sure how to record the keys perfectly and such, like what if i get some harder then other..?im not sure how to make a refill of my piano but that's what i wanted to do..

and i cant record onto the keyboards memory and play it and hit record in reason, doesn't work..
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Hi there !

I was reading your question , when i remembered a lill program who can do the job for you ...

Its called "Samplit" and can be found on cdxtract*com (Change the * into a . !)

I havent used it myself though , but i am using Cdextract from the same company (Had some Akai sample-discs to convert)

I know the program converts directly into Reason format (if i am right ... NNXT format ...) , so record your Hardware synth , and build the patch !

Greetzzzzzzzz and good luck !

Remy aka SCEZ

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