Right, i've been looking at tutorials about how to use the vocoder, but they all seem to miss out one thing.
Ive recorded a .WAV file, but i do not know how to get that recording into the pattern lane of the NN19, like you would with a redrum pattern. ive initialised the patch and found the sample, when i go into the note lane and hold a key it will play my recording in that key, but i do not know how to get the recording into a pattern as such.
Thanks for your help!

I'm sorry but I'm a bit confused, maybe you could reword that question a little.

What's this about the pattern? If you can playback and record the wav sample and run it through the vocoder what exactly is the problem?

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yeah sorry, that does seem a bit hard to interpret!!!

right, now what i have done is load a wav into the NN19 as a sample, not a patch (if that makes any difference)

then i record a note on middle c in the NN19 as this doesnt affect my pitch of voice.

So this is now recorded.
then i follow the steps on this video youtube.co m/watch?v=MLO2st-qtSY (i have moved the m of "com" in that link, a space forward because i cannot post links yet)

very similar to the steps here:

1. Record whatever vocals you want to vocode using whatever DAW you have (not Reason because Reason doesn't record audio).

2. In your Reason project, open a new BV512. Hold shift as you create it so it doesn't get automatically routed in a way you don't want it to. Route the outputs of the vocoder to your mixer or wherever you want it to go. Make sure the equalizer/vocoder knob is set to vocoder and the dry/wet knob is all the way wet.

3. Open an NN-XT (again, while holding shift) and initialize patch if it isn't already initialized. Route output 1 from the NN-XT to the modulator input on the vocoder.

4. Open one of the synthesizers (while holding shift) and initialize patch. I like to use Thor but the Subtractor works well also. Don't use the Malstrom as the carrier, at least not at first. Route the output(s) from the synth to the carrier inputs on the vocoder When vocoding it's important to use a synth with an open filter (if not completely open, close to it). Otherwise it won't work nearly as well because there are no high frequencies to modulate.

5. Now load the vocal sample you previously recorded into the NN-XT. Record that sample to a sequencer track. You will not hear the sample at this point because there is no carrier signal yet. Loop the sample and keep it playing continuously.

6. Now if you play the synthesizer, you will hear the sample being vocoded. You're money!

This is the most basic set up for a vocoder. I do a lot of signal processing in between, such as compressing the modulator and equalizing the carrier, among many other things. There is usually quite a bit of tweaking involved until you can get a sound that you like. It helps to put all the devices involved in one combinator to keep things organized.

with the steps i have posted in text, however, i cannot load a sample into the NN XT because it does not allow me.



when i follow the steps of the video, i wire the devices as shown, but i cannot get any sound out of the sampler now. it does say you wont get any sound out at first, but he doesnt mention how to get sound afterwards.

i think there may be a really amateur mistake i am making at the beggining that i am completely missing.

thanks for anyone who can solve my problem
sacha

also if anyone can give a very basic how-to, on the vocoding a .wav file, with all the basic steps that a person new to reason wouldn't get, that would be HUGELY appreciated.

right i have just quoted this off an old post on this forum
"the way i normally do it is convert to wav open up in nnxt 19, wire to vocoder, then recorded them in hope that helps"

so im under the impression i should only record the vocals (by holding down a note and letting them play and be recorded) once i have wired everything to the vocoder?

I think I see the problem.

Okay first make sure your sample is on a loop like it says in the tutorial, make sure you recorded you playing the sample.

Then if you wired everything correctly, you'll have to play the synth to hear your sample in the vocoder. It's important that you not try to play the nnxt directly, you have to play the synth as it carries the nnxt's signal. That's why it's important (at least for doing it the first time) to have your sample playing back in a constant loop in the sequencer.

Hopefully I explained my answer well.

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thanks for that im slowly getting somewhere!

right so the sample is on a loop (i did this by clicking loop on/off, then moving the line that says "R" to where i wanted it)

im not too sure what exactly you mean though by making sure i have recorded me playing the sample. it is on a loop under then nn 19, so where exactly to i record this loop?

thanks for the help, ive tried reading the manual but it isnt the easiest thing to digest!

Sorry my explanation wasn't so good, as long as the sample is playing on a loop then that's good.

Have you tried playing the synth that's used as the carrier for the vocoder? If you did, did you hear anything? You should hear the nn19's sample being processed through the vocoder if you've routed everything correctly.

Also just a little unrelated tip, you're much better off using the nnxt to sample, it has more outputs, and more options for sampling.

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