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Old August 26th, 2008, 09:15
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Default Mutes? Gaps? Silences? Not quite sure what to call em?

Hey everyone just stumbled upon the forum mid internet-trawling for reason tutorials and i figured this would be as good a place as any to seek advice haha (Name is Riley and I'm from Brisbane Australia)

I'm currently using Reason 4 and im wondering if anyone knows how to create the effect where youve got a synth or whatever that clips really hard at the first few nanoseconds of the note and gives it that real gritty feeling, but when you try to do a whole lot of those notes really fast in tiny amounts to get a really disjointed sound to it, it sounds like balls because of the harshness of the synth its really designed for more long slow drawn out notes or chords.

So what I'm asking is how would you like i guess have it so youve only played one note and you are holding it down for X amount of time and you can then put in your pattern or rhythm of mutes (gaps, silences?) without having to have that initial impact of the synth happening every time.

An example of this is in the infected mushroom song "suliman" right at the begining with all the mutes through the vocals.

another example is in the boys noize song "& Down" at about 3:10.

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Old August 26th, 2008, 10:05
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I guess, you mean the effect which I know as "trance gate". One solution:
create a matrix, go to the "curve" mode an draw a pattern. then connect the curve-cv out to the master-level-cv in of your device.
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Old August 26th, 2008, 10:08
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I guess, you mean the effect which I know as "trance gate". One solution:
create a matrix, go to the "curve" mode an draw a pattern. then connect the curve-cv out to the master-level-cv in of your device.
Thanks heaps mate! I'll give it a whirl now
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Old August 26th, 2008, 10:11
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Ah, one more thing: You have to turn the cv-in amount (the dial in the backside of your device) to the maximum.
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Ah, one more thing: You have to turn the cv-in amount (the dial in the backside of your device) to the maximum.
ah k i did all that and though it does get a similar effect to what i was after but what i was thinking of was like it would sound almost as if someone was just pressing a mute button in a pattern on a certain device, with the matrix pattern thing im still getting resonance from the previous notes in the mix, are you aware of like any way to get complete and total silence in those gaps?
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maybe this helps: Go to the backside of the matrix and turn its curve mode to "bipolar". Then draw a curve, which has full negative values where you want the gaps. Then, there should be absolute silence. (and keep in mind to turn up the cv-in amount).

There's another thing: The Level-CV-Input of Thor just controls the level of the signal before the last effects are added. This means, that the delay is added after it and because of this, you would here the delayed sound in the gaps, when you use Thor and the delay effect of thor.

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maybe this helps: Go to the backside of the matrix and turn its curve mode to "bipolar". Then draw a curve, which has full negative values where you want the gaps. Then turn down the master volume of the device. Then, there should be absolute silence. (and keep in mind to turn up the cv-in amount).
ok thats now fixed the melody but now i can only hear my drum track when the values are positive even though i created the matrix from the synthesiser otherwise the drums get muted with the melody
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oh wait nevermind i just fixed it... instead of wiring the curve CV to the master level CV.. i just wired it to the track that it was on the mixer

thanks man you were a huge help!
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EDIT: Fine!
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oh wait nevermind i just fixed it... instead of wiring the curve CV to the master level CV.. i just wired it to the track that it was on the mixer

thanks man you were a huge help!
'sall good man hahah did the trick cheers!
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