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Old June 6th, 2008, 01:40
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I'm trying to do something in Reason and I'm not even sure I know how to explain what, exactly, I want to do. But I'll give it a shot. There are two different things and one, I think, is just an extension of the other.

Suppose I want to have a synth but instead of triggering it with an arpeggiator or the matrix, I want to trigger it with, say, an LFO. Kind of the same sound, just using a different trigger. It might sound like this:

boop boop boop boop boop boop boop...

What I'm really trying to do -- and hence the reason for not using a Matrix/Arp -- is something like this:

boop .... boop ... boop .. boop . boop boop boop . boop .. boop ... boop .... boop

In other words, I want the frequency of the trigger to go up and down (or even just increase until it becomes a buzz).

That make sense?

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Old June 6th, 2008, 09:24
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Should be done with Thor. You can set up the mod matrix so that LFO 2 controlls the rate of LFO 1 and then you take the LFO1 CV Out as your Gate-In.
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Old June 6th, 2008, 18:25
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this is also easy to do with a combi -- and this process can also open up TONS of other possibilities -- in a combi, set up your synth. then take the synth with the lfo you want (say a malstrom -- use one of the mods, which is actually an lfo) and hook the cv out to the gate in. then you can either hook one of the rotaries up to the lfo rate and automate the rotary OR you can do something even better -- take the cv out from another lfo (even on the same synth) and hook it into one of the rotaties on the back of the combi. then program it so that rotary controls the rate of the first lfo. then you have the second lfo controlling the rate of the first lfo that is in the gate of your synth.

i like this solution because it encourages creativity as well as avoids having to automate a knob -- you just fiddle with the settings till it has the sound you want, and you're done!! and, as i said -- you have all kind of possibilities -- just hooking some lfos cv to the rotaries on the back of the combi and then sending the rotaries out to other values. you can then have one lfo controlling mutiple things and you don't have to have a cv splitter, so fewer wires and faster changes. also, you don't have to record automation!!
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I havn't even gotten into plugging different things together (besides to the mixer , matrix, rpg8, etc). Is there any site or anything i can read that will teach me about all that stuff?
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this is also easy to do with a combi -- and this process can also open up TONS of other possibilities -- in a combi, set up your synth. then take the synth with the lfo you want (say a malstrom -- use one of the mods, which is actually an lfo) and hook the cv out to the gate in. then you can either hook one of the rotaries up to the lfo rate and automate the rotary OR you can do something even better -- take the cv out from another lfo (even on the same synth) and hook it into one of the rotaties on the back of the combi. then program it so that rotary controls the rate of the first lfo. then you have the second lfo controlling the rate of the first lfo that is in the gate of your synth.

automation!!
Thank you for blowing my mind and making reason even more amazingly awesome.
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Old June 9th, 2008, 17:34
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absolutely! once i "discovered" this, i couldn't stop fooling around
as an fyi -- check out the "blue chip" refill (it's a free refill on the propellerhead page) -- even if the sounds are not for you, there is a ton of crazy wiring and automation that goes in that can help you learn more and figure out how to do things!

have fun . .. .
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Old June 9th, 2008, 19:19
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+1 for Blue Chip
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Old June 10th, 2008, 02:55
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I apologize -- and appreciate the answer (that apparently a lot of other people liked) -- but I'm stumped.

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in a combi, set up your synth.
OK, created a combinator and then inside, added a Thor.

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then take the synth with the lfo you want (say a malstrom -- use one of the mods, which is actually an lfo)
I think you're saying I should also make a Malstrom inside the combi, so I did.

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...and hook the cv out to the gate in.
Reason won't let me. The gate output of the Malstrom (upper left, under Seq Control) is not the same type of plug as the gate input on the Thor.

And that's where I get stuck.

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Old June 10th, 2008, 03:19
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Hey man:

yournamehere meant hook the cv out from mod a to the gate in of thor. You're right, you wouldn't be able to hook the seq control gate on mael to thor since that's an input (I always mix the ins and outs up). You should be able to use either mod output though on the back of maelstrom
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Old June 10th, 2008, 04:44
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Excellent, thanks for the clarification! And thanks to name for the original idea.

Here's some screenshots in case it helps anyone. I've highlighted the important areas in red.

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Back:



...and an mp3 of the resulting sound:

lfo.mp3

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